Flow Improver vs Flow Enhancer

[Perv]

I have used both of these and was just wondering what everyones opinion is.

I thought these were the same product when I bought them but they are very different.  The Daler Rowney is like a thin paint without the pigment whereas the Windsor Newton is like water with washing up liquid in.  I put this straight into my pots of paint and when I shake the ones with the Newton in, they flare up with bubbles and overspill the pot when opened but the Daler Rowney ones are as good as gold and just stay normal.  I also find the Newton makes the paint a lot more transparent than the Daler Rowney, handy in some cases but not others.

Are there 2 different uses for improver and enhancer or are they trying to be the same product, I cant quite tell.....

If they are both for use as the same thing then the Daler Rowney wins hands down in my opinion, the flow it gives without compromising transparency is in a different class to the Windsor

[Custom_Hobby]

I have not tired either. Anyone else have any experience with these?

[Perv]

Mike u gotta try the Daler Rowney mate, it makes painting so much easier and fluent.  Know it sounds silly but my painting results improved dramatically when I started using this.  It makes paint perform just how you want it !!!

[Custom_Hobby]

Not silly at all. Flow enhancer always makes things much better. Using thinner coats does wonders for paintjobs. Remember we are dealing with tiny figures.

[Perv]

true but there is a major difference to using this vs water.  It makes the paint work better in all aspects.  I'd say the Newton is a handy product to have but the Daler is an essential.  You know me, always up for cheapness but I wouldnt ever go back to using just water now.

I have GW paints with screw top lids, not sure what year these stopped being made but sure was about a decade ago.  They were very thick and starting to dry up, topped up with the Daler and gave a good shake, better than brand new !!!!

[Dr.Evil]

Don't know what mine is (poured it into a squeeze bottle for handiness) but as far as i know they do the same thing.  :icon_scratch:

The foaming does not sound right to me, might be a bad bottle or meant for Artist acrylic paint, i know W&N matt varnish is poor as it gives a slight white-ish look.

Was told washing-up liquid does the same job as improver and enhancer which is also called tension breaker as well.
Why all the different names i don't know.  :shrug:

[Perv]

"Was told washing-up liquid does the same job as improver and enhancer which is also called tension breaker as well."

I was told this too which is why I thought the W&D was just washing up liquid in water as it has the same properties.  The bottle I have may be a dodgy one then, anyone else had this trouble with foaming?  dont expect anyone else puts it straight in the pot though, I can imagine a few people reading this, shaking their heads and tutting lol  Actually the bottle I got is not the same as the one above in the pic, they may have sent me the wrong stuff and I didnt notice....will have a looksie.  Sure it said the same things on the label.....

All these different names are so people buy them all unwittingly I assume.... :icon_w00t:

[Bungle]

I can't find the flow enhancer on dalers web site.

they might have stopped doing it

[Perv]

Its labelled as Cryla in their photo although it comes thru as a Daler Rowney bottle.  Both my W&D and DR bottles have different labels to those in the pics actually....(Note to self: must remember to pay more attention to the world around me)