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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/z6.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/z7.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/z8.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/z9.jpg)
i'm making a dragon and it's good fun to try something i'm not particularly good at.
Bloody hell, I thought this was a paintjob but it looks like you're actualy sculpting a :Walkdrag:
You know, there's a separate forum for that.
Interesting dragon, this one. It reminds me of the old Dragonmasters Dragon.
Looking good mate. Wow, i wish i had talent like that!
Quote from: Balgin Stondraeg on September 02, 2007, 06:23:32 PM
You know, there's a separate forum for that.
Do you mean the "Painting, Converting & Sculpting" section? If that was what you meant then don't worry it is fine here. It is still a WIP. The other is more for discussions, asking for help, and showing of your work.
Stuart I really like the feel you have going on there.
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i14/customhobby/chinese-dragon-mosaic.jpg)
looking interesting and different.
a skinny dragon.. magically flying.. I like the idea.
are you planning on getting it cast?
I hope he does. It is working out well so far.
Aye its proper canny like!
(sorry!)
But yea, thats coming on very well, like Balgin mention, similar to the Dragon Master Dragon, especially the head. It has the same elongated jaw style.
Do you use procrate? Or something entirely different?
pro create, trying to get the hang of it
yeah, I like this one. It's not so much a lazy sit on my horde dragon, as it is a flying around ripping people heads off and burning down villages dragon.
Maybe a little more inspiration
(http://www.sadisticsavior.com/images/dragon.jpg)
that is a top bit of work
Excellent! :clap2:
:yeahthat: :clap2:
Just one thing: I think you're going to need to have more armature support for the sculpting. That looks like it's going to be trouble to hold onto?
Or maybe it's so big you can hold onto the actual sculpt while working on one part? Never done anything that big so I wouldn't know...
looks good mate, when the wings are on it should all come together scalewise and I think it will look very good.
Anyone ever thought of doing a dragon casualty? Theres a Limited Edition Dragon Slayer Dwarf with foot on a severed Dragons head. I've looked for a suitable dragons body to match the head but not found one as its gotta be a sorta dead looking pose......
If this one gets cast up you might have something that works.
the neck looks about the right diameter :icon_wink:
Quote from: Bodhi on September 03, 2007, 05:25:52 AM
Just one thing: I think you're going to need to have more armature support for the sculpting. That looks like it's going to be trouble to hold onto?
Or maybe it's so big you can hold onto the actual sculpt while working on one part? Never done anything that big so I wouldn't know...
the mini is big enough to hold the middle while i sculpt the legs , head and tail around it.
the wings are being sculpted separately and just placed ther to see if the sculpt was working.
Smart move, then they don't get in your way. :bludrgn2:
more pics tomorrow, i have started the wings now
ok so as promised the pics you are all waiting to see!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/wing1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/wing2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/wing3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/wing4.jpg)
the wings are still separate (and only one is half done........the other has a way to go yet)
i now have to figure out a way to connect the dragon to the ground whilst i'm finishing other stuff off.
Very, very nice. How do you sculpt the membranes? Just flatten it out and wait for it to slightly harden, then cut it out to shape?
i squshed it out with my fingers then placed it over the armature whilst fairly fresh ( i had to keep my fingers wet)
i then stretched areas and wrapped bits of the putty around the wire to stick it around the wire.
all in all i'd say i did a lot ofswearing whilst this was going on. then i blu-tacked them to a cupboard to dry. the membranes need to be thickened up a little now.
Ah so you did each wing in one go, I thought you would have to do each trianglar piece seperate then glue them to the wire. Wait for it all to set then putty over the wire for strength.
toothpaste tubes cut to shape are supposed to be good to use for the wings. May be easier than carving from scratch and u can add detail on them after. Solid as well so can be heavier handed.
Looks good so far though :icon_wink:
What about crud*e paper, use that hardener stuff to harden it and then bulk it with procreate. :shrug:
i origianlly thought about using paper ans sealing it with super glue. but the gods were with me on this one and i just went for it with the procreate.
there's a tutorial by gael goumon on how to do dragon wings somewhere on the net
Nice work, the dragon is coming along well. :clap2: A tallented painter and now a sculptor :occasion14:
Quote from: paintslave no.4 on September 07, 2007, 04:37:17 AM
there's a tutorial by gael goumon on how to do dragon wings somewhere on the net
It's on his homepage:
http://mandragoreminiatures.free.fr/tutoailedragonanglais.pdf
Thanks for posting the link Bodhi
i usee that tutorial but was too impatient to wait for the putty to semi-cure and so forth.
i once had the patience to do this: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/marine3.jpg)
but never again
The banner does look good though.
Quote from: Medved on September 07, 2007, 07:45:51 PM
i usee that tutorial but was too impatient to wait for the putty to semi-cure and so forth.
???
fifty percent of all detail and smoothing work is done when the putty is semicured. You ALLWAYS have to wait for that stage anyway don't you?
Work on something else while waiting.
Make yourself a little oven to speed up the curing a bit.
Have you thought about moulding?
and fitting it in?
Separate tail maybe due to the length?
Resin casting?
Quote from: Custom_Hobby on September 08, 2007, 10:13:24 AM
Make yourself a little oven to speed up the curing a bit.
It can be MOST simple. I just use a worklight and an old pieform. I put the figure in the pieform and lower the worklight over it. Simple as that. I used to just put it on the table but the heat caused slight discoloration so hence I started using the pieform to protect the table.
i am used to sculpting 'wet' so to speak i don;t get the time to let stuff cure for the required time, so i just do my best and then carve back or trim stuff with a scalpel the next day and have another go if required.
i can get 80-90% of what i want to be done within 30 minutes generally, after that the traits of the material start to kick in and my limitations start.
i have done minis where everything is perfected and no element is left untouched, but that burnt me out in the end and almost destroyed my enjoyment of the hobby.
If you take a sheet of styrene cut to the shape of the banner you are looking for, and then heat it with, well, heat, you can shape them and get them to flow in a relatively short amount of time.
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6066/warhammer1093aj9.jpg)
Nice idea. I usually GS them but this looks like something that is much faster.
By the way Theomar do you make your trees or buy them?
Quote from: Custom_Hobby on September 08, 2007, 09:46:13 PM
Nice idea. I usually GS them but this looks like something that is much faster.
By the way Theomar do you make your trees or buy them?
Those tree's are store bought. I will probably be making all of my broadleaf trees from now on.
Check Michaels for the christmas village stock, they have winter trees that make great armatures for scratchbuilt trees. they sell some evergreens too, but nothing to convincing. Tons of other good stuff though.
As for he banners, all of my banners and shingles start as one of these:
(http://www.islington.labour.co.uk/images/4061/for_sale_sign.jpg)
If you catch them on clearance, you can get dozens of them for just a few bucks. I personally got a two inch stack of them for $2.00 on closeout.
more pics (only 2 this time)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/zzz1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/zzz2.jpg)
no sculpting at the weekend bar the hour i just got now. the children won't settle and the smallest one is trying to wake the whole street up now!
Flying base or leaping off of something?
i'll try and work out something for him to leap off, but i think a flying base would work well too.
made big progress on the wings today (my son is poorly so i'm at home babysitting rather than at work)
once the current putty work is dry i can set to work on the basing issue.
oh and BTW this fella might be up for sale (if you're interested send me a PM)
as i said lots of progress today i think i may even have a method for connecting the mini with the base.
i have sculpted a small peg that goes through the claws on the back feet.
the wings are on but i need to let the putty set then clean them up a little.
almost there!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/q1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/q2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/q3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Medved1/q4.jpg)
The scales look great. Are you doing the base next?
i'll be looking for some slate or similar basing materials tonight.
then i'll tidy up the wings a bit more