Duel

[S1ND3X]

bit of an odd one i guess but i was thinking what might be cool is to see 2 (or more) sculptors come together and do a line of figures each for a specific army/skirmish force, with the aim of producing them commercially
this would create armies of such variety with regards to fashions, weapon combos, styles of warfare, later in the range they could borrow certain elements, like weapons and armour from other sculptors as salvaged gear and such
i dunno, just seem3ed like a fun idea to me
i'll stop rambling now

[cheddarmonger]

cool idea!  go for it!

[Bodhi]

I'm not quite sure I understand?
EXISTING armies (in which case I'm monumentally uninterested - to close to IP theft, unless it's historicals of course...)
or
INVENTING YOUR OWN armies (now we're talking...)

Also would the sculptors work together on the same army or would they work on different sides in a conflict?

[Custom_Hobby]

Sounds good if you guys could pull it all together. How many other sculptors do we have on the forum? Post this on the 1listsculpting yahoo group too.

[S1ND3X]

fantasy armies, design your own each sculptor has their own army to work on, or a pair or group could do an army together
just the idea would be if you're working on one army you can't work on another (to keep the anatomies, styles, fashions and such seperate)
i kind of invisage a test idea whereby each sculptor would make a 2 basic infantry with different weapon combos, an Elite, A Command and something truly unique to that army

also a map could be drawn up and portioned out to each sculptor to aid with fluff

thanks custom, i'll put it up on 1st list too

[Bodhi]

So an elite would be like a herotype right? And a command? Would that be a unit or just a general type? Forgive me but I never play these type o' games so I don't really understand the vocabulary used here?

[S1ND3X]

okay, that's cool, i'll try and explain
the command would be the guy that would issue the orders, the general in other words
the elite would be somebody better than the avergae, like an army champion
to clarify Arthur was the Command, Lancelot and Galahad were the Elites
the guys that really stand out, or indeed the guys that do something specialised, gives you a flavour of the army, like say some elves could have a wizard or nsuper archer elite, some dwarves might have a troll hunter or gunnery sniper elite
hope this helps

[Bodhi]

OK.
My "army list":

Wild (tribal) elves:
1 grunt standing 1 kneeling. Very light armor, bare upper bodies, just one shoulder guard
Optional arms (right): Sword, bow, spear
Optional arms (left): Empty hand (with separate shield for attaching), spellcasting, spear (twohanded grip)
(those were started before you made the thread - hence my choice of army)
Option between quiver or swordsheath (I have a hangup on that particular word. I'm sure the spelling is wrong...).

Command: floating meditating female figure. Hair and clothing will support to give the floating feel. Lotusposition.

Can the command figure be a mage as well? I think she will be. That or cleric/high priestess.

Elite: Hmmm, I'll think of something. Any suggestions? Perhaps a druid type?

That sound like what you're suggesting?

[Bungle]

OK.
My "army list":

Wild (tribal) elves:
1 grunt standing 1 kneeling. Very light armor, bare upper bodies, just one shoulder guard
Optional arms (right): Sword, bow, spear
Optional arms (left): Empty hand (with separate shield for attaching), spell, spear (twohanded grip)
(those were started before you made the thread - hence my choice of army)
Option between quiver or swordsheath (I have a hangup on that particular word. I'm sure the spelling is wrong...).

Command: floating meditating female figure. Hair and clothing will support to give the floating feel. Lotusposition.

Can the command figure be a mage as well? I think she will be. That or cleric/high priestess.

Elite: Hmmm, I'll think of something. Any suggestions? Perhaps a druid type?

That sound like what you're suggesting?

Yes

Wild tribal elves based on which cultures? native american? African? Polynesian head hunter? A huge variety of armour and clothing types, whats the concept? Feathered headress? Robes and sickle?

Musician High pitched weapons carry over the sound of battle... pan pipes? bellows powered bag pipe instrument?

Hero.... berserker with big 2 handed sword? martial artist armed with nunchukas? Or vine whip?

Mage the female you have suggested or a cross dressing shaman?

Commander  the female you have suggested... or a earth goddess mother figure?  Male with animal skin headress? Beaver? wolf? stag? Raven?

are they any good for more suggestions?

[Bodhi]

Well... vaguely native american. Rather Wendy and richard Pinis elfquestcharacters though (but not as cute) they're simply elven tribal so no strict counterpart in existing society. Perhaps "native american celtic"
Hmmm, musician. Now there's a thing. But that would be neither command nor elite right? Instead that would be a third. And then there's cavalry... best stick to the bare outline proposed by S1ND3X for starters

The mage/leader: I'm thinking serene shaman here. Like a mix between shaman and saint.

Perhaps I'll go with celtic native american and make a sort of Slaine like herofigure.

Just thought on another inspiration source: The elves in Terry Pratchetts ringworld. Mean and in rather motly dressup.

[Bungle]

Standard bearer and musician go with the command group....... in most fantasy wargames rule

[Inso]

Is this only for the Fantasy crowd or is it also directed at the Sci-fi fraternity?

Sci-Fi Lizard-men maybe?

[Bodhi]

Standard bearer and musician go with the command group....... in most fantasy wargames rule

Ah. Didn't realise... well musician would have to be some type of bagpipe. Not scottish but rather the smaller  variety used in Bretagne and in the middleages. Uillean pipes (the irish variety) - while nice - are played sitting down and would not fit at all.

Standard bearer. Well, Maybe go with the celtic cult of the skull and make something of that? Though it would be hard to make just a skull original... perhaps go with the native american and make something more "totem" - like (I know "totem is an aboriginal term to be used in clanrelations among aboriginals  but I forgot a proper name for the native american variety and I can't be bothered to check my anthropology references right now. Anyway - they're elves so would have some other name [and exact use] for it anyway)

Oh and on headdress I was rather thinking thin braids - reminiscent of dreadlocks but more orderly. No headwear

S1ND3X  what are your thoughts on this? Have you got any army list suggestion of your own? I'm curious.

[S1ND3X]

you're pretty much spot on there Bodhi, and yeah if it's a mage heavy society throw in more than one (the rules could accomodate a few magical abilities for all troops

anyway, the reason i didn't mention standards and musicians is partly because i don't think all armies need them, but mainly because i think looking at this as a skirmish level rather than full wargame to begin is the best idea

my force is again Elves (there's a worry)
but much more military and disciplined, though not just elves in armour, they'll have armour sure but they'll still be athletic and full of magic
or i might do some humans as i have ideas in that direction too
haven't got a full army list yet, but i'll post it as soon as i do

with regards to sci fi i was thinking of doing that afterward if this idea takes off, though feel free to start your own sci fi idea along the same lines Inso

[Bodhi]

Actually again elves need not be a bad thing. Going with elfquest inspiration again one could make loads of different elf tribes at different levels of technical advancement - even warring against each other.
I just discovered a weak point in my multipart idea. Swords would be held in right hand, bows in the left with right being the pulling arm. Of course one could make a gang where all archers are lefthanded but that would look a bit silly...
So I'm guessing my two scrunts will just have to be close combat - which makes it necessary to make other poses for the archers... Maybe just different arms. I have to think about that one.
Do we post WIPs and conceptsketches in this thread?
I found a spellsinger sculpt that pretty mush has the hairstyle I was thinking of:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/166407

or like this- but longer:
http://www.phototravels.net/kenya/turkana/photo-kenya-turkana-d-027.html

For shields I was thinking of borrowing zuludesign:
http://www.africancraftsmarket.com/shield1mandclubs_details.htm