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Title: Flow Enhancer
Post by: gi6ers on February 16, 2007, 10:14:19 AM
the joy of flow enhancer  :icon_rr:
Title: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Fabian on February 16, 2007, 10:43:36 AM
Flow enhancer rocks  :icon_thumleft:
Title: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 16, 2007, 11:35:51 AM
I think I neeed to run out and buy some flow enhancer.
Title: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Fabian on February 16, 2007, 11:51:07 AM
By the way, has anyone mentioned flow enhancer?  :icon_whistling: :icon_tongue:
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 16, 2007, 12:02:51 PM
I split this into its own topic since It was heading off topic. I figure we can discuss there merrits of it here.

Anyone reccommend any brands?
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Fabian on February 16, 2007, 12:07:01 PM
Well I use Daler-Rowney, which I can't complain about.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Perv on February 16, 2007, 12:36:45 PM
Daler Rowney for me too, is it just paint without the colour pigments?
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: gi6ers on February 16, 2007, 12:40:54 PM
No it reduces the surface tension of paint, if you are doing thin layers or washes it helps.

Just add a tiny amount to your paint mix, some people just add a drop of washing up liquid to their painting water which apparently has a similar effect.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 16, 2007, 12:45:18 PM
It has to do with the water in the paints. Soap reduces the surface tension of water.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: cheddarmonger on February 16, 2007, 02:48:19 PM
"washing up liquid" is called "Dish Soap" in English.

I use Liquitex; I don't remember where, but someone posted a recipe for flow enhancer + acrylic extender + water, and I've been very happy with that; I keep a squeeze bottle of it handy.

I also keep a squeeze bottle of water + future floor polish.  It does a great job with ink washes.

Incidentally, in the GW how to paint book, they suggest using pva glue as an acrylic medium.  It actually works pretty well.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Dr.Evil on February 16, 2007, 03:01:06 PM
Never heard "Dish soap" before, allways called it "washing up liquid".  :icon_scratch:

Don't know the make of mine as i got two bottles and poured them into one big bottle with an easy pouring spout that folds away into the top.

It made a hell of a difference to my painting, lots more smoother, more thin coats and takes longer but the result is worth it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Fabian on February 16, 2007, 03:05:07 PM
I always have to mentally translate 'dish-soap' when I see it in articles. That'll teach me for being a Brit. Although I will be spending two months in NY state this summer, so I suppose I'll have to get used to it!  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 16, 2007, 03:07:11 PM
I hope you have a good time here in NYC. Drop me a line when you are here.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: cheddarmonger on February 16, 2007, 03:17:49 PM
Yes, they have soap in NYC.  Or so I've heard.  It isn't obvious, though.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 16, 2007, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: cheddarmonger on February 16, 2007, 03:17:49 PM
Yes, they have soap in NYC.  Or so I've heard.  It isn't obvious, though.

Depends on where you are, LOL.  I have some , but shhh... dont tell the natives.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Fabian on February 16, 2007, 03:30:11 PM
I'm gonna be working in a summer camp near Roscoe, so I hope there's soap! 100s of unwashed children otherwise.. yuck!

Sorry.. off-topic...
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 16, 2007, 03:51:08 PM
Maybe there is a river near by  :icon_wink: Thanks for the info guys. I will pick some up this weekend.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Bungle on February 16, 2007, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: Wristaction on February 16, 2007, 03:01:06 PM
Never heard "Dish soap" before, allways called it "washing up liquid".  :icon_scratch:

call it Fairy Liquid and really confuse the smutty minded  :read:
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Perv on February 17, 2007, 07:08:59 AM
I tried using PVA in mixes and it works ok but leaves the fig a bit glossy.  Vallejo matt medium is slightly better but more expensive.  I dont think the extra cost is worth it for the Vallejo though.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Medved on February 22, 2007, 06:25:33 PM
wahat about water? i find that to be very good as a flow enhancing aid 9especially round London where the tap water has magical properties)
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: cheddarmonger on February 22, 2007, 06:50:21 PM
Plain water tends to dry very quickly.  I use retarder to keep my paints wet, especially useful when mixing up a lot of a special color for a large model or a unit of troops.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Perv on February 22, 2007, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: paintslave no.4 on February 22, 2007, 06:25:33 PM
wahat about water? i find that to be very good as a flow enhancing aid 9especially round London where the tap water has magical properties)

Are you serious?  I grow a lot of plants and I can honestly say the water in England is poisoned rather than magical.  Maybe some warpstone contamination at best  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: cheddarmonger on February 22, 2007, 07:17:01 PM
The plant in your avatar looks quite healthy and happy.
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Dr.Evil on February 22, 2007, 07:50:49 PM
Quote from: cheddarmonger on February 22, 2007, 07:17:01 PM
The plant in your avatar looks quite healthy and happy.

So is Perv. :tongue3:

Well maybe not the healthy bit.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Perv on February 23, 2007, 05:50:11 AM
lol yeah the healthy side of my life is pretty terrible but I am definately happy, retired at age 24 !!!

Thats Hash Plant in the pic, took me 3 attempts to get that one growing properly but its one of the hardest types to grow.  Since getting a Doulton water filter the growth rate of my plants has doubled, it takes out 99% of bacteria and all the chlorine and other crud*, even if you dont grow its a damn site healthier to drink.  I have 4 cats and they hardly used to touch their water, since giving them the filtered water they drink half a bowl per day between them.  I know it seems off topic but fltered water will probably work a lot better in your paint too, there stright back onto topic  :sunny:

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Title: Re: Flow Enhancer
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 25, 2007, 10:22:19 AM
WOW, that is a lot of members. Ok Perv start pimping....