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Title: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on May 30, 2008, 08:39:27 AM
Hi guys. Ive been working on this all day. Thought id play around with sci fi scenery. Im thinking of casting this once im happy with it.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00127-1.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00130.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00133-1.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00132-1.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00131.jpg)
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Custom_Hobby on May 30, 2008, 08:44:31 AM
Nice work AM!
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Keeper on May 30, 2008, 08:46:37 AM
Looks pretty neat, AM :icon_smile:

Is it just bits of plasticard and plastic tube?
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on May 30, 2008, 09:01:58 AM
Yep, easy, but fiddly. It also tends to need to be very neatly and symmetrically placed to look good. Im happy with this stuff ,but its a little rough and ready when you look closely at it.

Not going to matter much, but you know some purists will give me hell about it.....

(paging bungle.. where are you? )  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Perv on May 30, 2008, 09:07:13 AM
Yeah great work, all that detail on doing fillings and such is paying off  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on May 30, 2008, 09:24:16 AM
You think I am going to complain?

4.5cm tall?  8'4" at 1/56...... tall enough to run some pipes along the ceiling too.

The boxes need to be neat but the cables ..well have you ever seen builders at work! bodge it and see. :icon_wink:

I would suggest some plain panels.

and some with doors


PS those press studs make great wheels for pipework taps.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on May 30, 2008, 01:00:11 PM
Ive got a whole pack of press studs waiting for the right pipe or door to adorn!

Ive spent the evening tidying the edges and trying to straighten them all.. im a lot happier with them now.

Ill take some pics later.

Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Custom_Hobby on May 30, 2008, 01:46:03 PM
Is it later yet????
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Hawkins on May 30, 2008, 02:26:56 PM
looks great, and yes please more picks:)   
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on May 30, 2008, 08:41:20 PM
Here is after alot of judicious scrud*ing and cleaning.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00135.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00134.jpg)

They are still a little raw, but i think they look neater and more to what ive been advised to improve on.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on May 30, 2008, 09:36:04 PM
http://www.sparkyworld.org/images/bigpix/9_alpha_l.jpg

(http://www.sparkyworld.org/images/bigpix/9_alpha_l.jpg)

any good for more inspiration?
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on May 30, 2008, 10:03:41 PM
Thats great bungle. good for ideas. Thanks.


Edit!

Did someone say press-studs?

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00005-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on May 31, 2008, 12:11:54 PM
get it cast.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Perv on May 31, 2008, 01:20:37 PM
Yeah that looks great Molar are would make for the start of a great diorama  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Sagunt on June 03, 2008, 03:47:26 PM
This sort of thing needs to be mass-produced in an affordable medium. Wild Walls produced vacuum formed detailing to be fastened over the structural core. It was less expensive than resin and lent itself to more uses because it didn't have the weight if it was meant to be part of spaceship exterior.

Cast it. Sell it. Then start on alien geigeresque panels. Sci industrial. Maybe even something really creative and innovative like Gothic arches with lots of rivets and skulls scattered about.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 03, 2008, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: Sagunt on June 03, 2008, 03:47:26 PM
Maybe even something really creative and innovative like Gothic arches with lots of rivets and skulls scattered about.

I get your taking the piss here, but are you taking the piss with your earlier comments as well? Thats cool, i just was wondering if i should be self depreciating and chuckle, or take your previous comments seriously.

Ive actually cast these panels up and testing how they look next to each other as a cohesive whole.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00011-1.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00012-2.jpg)

they arent glued down or even at neat right angles at the moment, but i think they work together nicely.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on June 03, 2008, 05:55:22 PM
how wide are the narrower panels?

just thinking laterally or horizontally in this case
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 04, 2008, 07:09:53 AM
24 and 26 mm in width.

Why?
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on June 04, 2008, 08:07:00 AM
Why?

Thinking horizontally

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a331/BungleB/Idea.jpg)

Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 04, 2008, 08:09:37 AM
lol.. you and your 15mm! lol

Im actually going to use them horizontally in some patterns.


Ill have to do some 15mm sci fi panels for you then bungle.


Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on June 04, 2008, 08:15:43 AM
have you tried gimp wire?

(or french wire?)
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 04, 2008, 08:59:20 AM
Both of those sound..... naughty. Do you mean guitar wire or piano wire?
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Custom_Hobby on June 04, 2008, 09:24:04 AM
Damn they do look good with the 15mm mini when you put them that way.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on June 04, 2008, 11:40:13 AM
Quote from: Agentmolar on June 04, 2008, 08:59:20 AM
Both of those sound..... naughty. Do you mean guitar wire or piano wire?


French Bullion (aka French Wire or Gimp) is very fine wire that is tightly wound into a thin spring. It is used in jewelry making as a finishing touch at the end of strung pieces, such as necklaces, bracelets, or anklets. It is extremely flexible and feels soft, almost velvety, to the touch.

(http://www.makejewellery.co.uk/images/uploads/06-RFWGM.jpg)

(http://www.rings-things.com/hazel-doc/Extended/images/bullion.jpg)

looks like armoured electrical cabling in the smaller scales
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Sagunt on June 04, 2008, 01:23:19 PM
Quote from: Agentmolar on June 03, 2008, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: Sagunt on June 03, 2008, 03:47:26 PM
Maybe even something really creative and innovative like Gothic arches with lots of rivets and skulls scattered about.

I get your taking the piss here, but are you taking the piss with your earlier comments as well? Thats cool, i just was wondering if i should be self depreciating and chuckle, or take your previous comments seriously.

Ive actually cast these panels up and testing how they look next to each other as a cohesive whole.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00011-1.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00012-2.jpg)

I should have put in another return to set. The last bit apart better.  Seriously, this is an idea that needs to be expanded. I was even going to revisit the art nuoveau with a photo I snapped recently.

they arent glued down or even at neat right angles at the moment, but i think they work together nicely.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on June 04, 2008, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: Sagunt on June 04, 2008, 01:23:19 PM
I should have put in another return to set. The last bit apart better.

Seriously, this is an idea that needs to be expanded. I was even going to revisit the art nuoveau with a photo I snapped recently.


put some images up of what you mean by art nouveau sci fi

or do you mean Deco curves?
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Sagunt on June 04, 2008, 02:38:03 PM
Quote from: Bungle on June 04, 2008, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: Sagunt on June 04, 2008, 01:23:19 PM
I should have put in another return to set. The last bit apart better.

Seriously, this is an idea that needs to be expanded. I was even going to revisit the art nuoveau with a photo I snapped recently.


put some images up of what you mean by art nouveau sci fi

or do you mean Deco curves?
 


I'll still post the pic when I get home, but yes, I meant art deco. Class had just started and I was getting the kids going while trying to compose my message on the phone-bad habit, but work server blocks ch.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Custom_Hobby on June 04, 2008, 03:08:32 PM
Quote from: Sagunt on June 04, 2008, 02:38:03 PM
...but work server blocks ch.

I wonder why? Is there anything we can do to fix that?
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on June 04, 2008, 03:27:21 PM
games site?
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Sagunt on June 04, 2008, 06:08:30 PM
Every forum gets blocked. No matter, school's over in one week
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 06, 2008, 09:45:15 AM
Flooring desiging going on now.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00013-2.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00014-2.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00016-1.jpg)

There will be a border around the tiles. Ill look at some granny grating for some alternate flooring options. Im happy how these are turning out.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Keeper on June 06, 2008, 10:22:00 AM
Nice work, AM :D

But you'll have to define the term granny grating for those of us unfamiliar with it?
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 06, 2008, 10:41:10 AM
as stolen from Terragenesis

The term "granny grating" is a long running joke name for of a kind of plastic mesh available from needlework and sewing shops where it is sold for making tapestries. It's more properly known as "plastic canvas" or "plastic weave". For further information: ask your grandmother.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Keeper on June 06, 2008, 11:02:06 AM
Ah, my grandmother taught me how to crossstich on that stuff.  Not a skill I've kept up with ;)

I like the lego bases, by the way :D
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Custom_Hobby on June 06, 2008, 11:26:27 AM
Nice work AM :clap2: We might have to start calling you Agent Sci-fi
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 06, 2008, 11:51:59 AM
lol. lego bases.. actually they are some of the original back to basix ones i got ages ago. Not mine.

not sure about the rivets. Mikes advice is to cast them up plain, and add em later.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00018-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Bungle on June 08, 2008, 08:18:23 AM
leave them off.

Drill small holes as if there are countersunk hex key fixings more sci fi and less VSF
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 08, 2008, 11:45:02 AM
Good idea. Ive finished the floor, just refining it before casting. ill do small holes in the first prototype
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 08, 2008, 09:14:51 PM
Ok here is a picture of the glued down flooring with a mini for size.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/agentmolar/DSC00020-2.jpg)

One thing ive learned from this. If you are going to make everything neat and straight. Lay it together before gluing it to the substructure. The beauty of styrene is that you can use a slow setting glue that allows the pieces to shift together and get nice contact. The superglue sets so frickin fast that if there is a shift or angle its stuck in there. Hence the tiny slight gaps and shifts you can see in it. Its subtle stuff, but does ruin the sci fi perfect look.

If i was going to make this again. id make a 90 degree angle but joint first, lay the lot together so its all neat and straight, finish the border and then glue it to he strip underneath. At least. thats what ill try for the next one.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Sagunt on June 09, 2008, 07:33:43 AM
To be certain of keeping everything squared up, build a frame of legos.  Necromunda bulkheads must've been built this way because when I was looking for a way to reproduce the size, I found they fit together perfectly.  You could frame the interior detail, then create a larger lego frame for the grid in which the detailed panels rest.  You'd just have to settle on a floor grid that would be reproducible with their shapes and sizes.

If this is too vague, I'll put something together and get some pics.
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Agentmolar on June 09, 2008, 08:00:07 AM
i think lego would be very useful. Also for casting moulds. Good idea. Ill just have to find some basic blocks. All i can find at the shops now is viking/ star wars and indiana jones lego..
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Keeper on June 09, 2008, 08:18:55 AM
That is all you'll find in the shops, but the online store sells basic brick sets ...

http://shop.lego.com/ByCategory/Leaf.aspx?cn=227&d=304
Title: Re: Sci fi stuff
Post by: Custom_Hobby on June 09, 2008, 08:21:00 AM
If you can't find what you need Kurt just let me know and I can pick some stuff up for you at the local store.