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Title: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Squigface on May 17, 2008, 08:12:30 AM
Hi all, here is a grunt for the toxic wasteland raiders. The other two should follow tomorrow or monday.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f106/Plushie100/Grunt1finishedfront.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f106/Plushie100/Grunt1finishedback.jpg)

Squig
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Custom_Hobby on May 17, 2008, 09:00:38 AM
I like the knife, nice touch.
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Bungle on May 17, 2008, 10:02:50 AM
Critique?

Shoulders look a bit rounded. The human side should be higher at least, the tentacle arm may be good without a high shoulder.

The back of the robes appears to have a strange lump low down... what part of his body or equipment is causing this? A tentacle tail? have it peeking out from underneath the edge of the robes

the sleeve looks cylindrical, it should hang more if it is cloth.

face.. have a go separately to fit in. That way you won't ruin everything you have done.
Try a 15mm face... try one with a hockey mask, try a bare face,, try a few faces. Practice and you will get there.

weapon looks a bit soft, the "furniture" needs to have harder edges and symmetry. Hard edges are difficult to do.

good points,

the folds across the front look effective.

Looks nice and tatty in places. Some nice seam lines

proportions look good underneath the clothes

you are getting there.... make some tweaks and we can see how they look in metal.
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Custom_Hobby on May 17, 2008, 10:44:17 AM
Is this going to be one of yours Bungle?
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Bungle on May 17, 2008, 10:57:45 AM
Yes.  :icon_wink:

constructive criticism..... ?

Squiggy is beginning, some practice and some tweaks and a bit of learning and developing his skills and he can have a go at a 28mm in the next frothers comp too.  :icon_w00t:

If he gets some of these in metal.. he can see what happens when cast and how it changes from the master... he can look back on what works and what doesn't.

I have a couple of my own to put in a master too... I need to see if they work, and how much smoothing etc need to be done. (they are hard surface sculpts not figures and I have worn out two very fine guitar refinishing sanding sticks on them. Yes I am being a perfectionist... )

If painting and sculpting are similar.... 28mm seems huge when you go back to it after doing 15's, and you feel like getting a roller out when faced with a 40mm figure.

Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Squigface on May 17, 2008, 11:08:43 AM
Quote from: Bungle on May 17, 2008, 10:02:50 AM
Critique?
sure
Shoulders look a bit rounded. The human side should be higher at least, the tentacle arm may be good without a high shoulder.

Should be easy to fix

The back of the robes appears to have a strange lump low down... what part of his body or equipment is causing this? A tentacle tail? have it peeking out from underneath the edge of the robes

Good idea, fixing in progress

the sleeve looks cylindrical, it should hang more if it is cloth.

Only because the edge og the sleeve if caught on the stock og the gun, but 'tis fixed now

face.. have a go separately to fit in. That way you won't ruin everything you have done.
Try a 15mm face... try one with a hockey mask, try a bare face,, try a few faces. Practice and you will get there.

Do you want him to have a hockey mask face?

weapon looks a bit soft, the "furniture" needs to have harder edges and symmetry. Hard edges are difficult to do.

Fixing

good points,

the folds across the front look effective.

Thanks

Looks nice and tatty in places. Some nice seam lines

Thanks

proportions look good underneath the clothes

Great, thanks

you are getting there.... make some tweaks and we can see how they look in metal.

Excellent.


Squig

*Edit* I do already work in 28mm :) Just avent had anything I felt was good enought to show off
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Bungle on May 17, 2008, 11:35:35 AM

the sleeve looks cylindrical, it should hang more if it is cloth.

Quote from: Squigface on May 17, 2008, 11:08:43 AMOnly because the edge of the sleeve if caught on the stock of the gun, but 'tis fixed now

couldn't see that from the angle of the photo

face.. have a go separately to fit in. That way you won't ruin everything you have done.
Try a 15mm face... try one with a hockey mask, try a bare face,, try a few faces. Practice and you will get there.

Quote from: Squigface on May 17, 2008, 11:08:43 AMDo you want him to have a hockey mask face?

I want you to do a face you can be proud of when you look back at this stage of your sculpting, in your first (?) batch of metals. Try human - a normal human no glasses or goggles.... look at Peter Pig figures for really simple faces that paint well. You can do better than those.

Quote from: Squigface on May 17, 2008, 11:08:43 AM

Squig

*Edit* I do already work in 28mm :) Just avent had anything I felt was good enought to show off

well you can win next years frothers comp then ;-)

Bodhi do you have any pointers and tips for tweaking the details and how to get stuff done.
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Squigface on May 17, 2008, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Bungle on May 17, 2008, 11:35:35 AM
couldn't see that from the angle of the photo

No problem, looks better now anyway

I want you to do a face you can be proud of when you look back at this stage of your sculpting, in your first (?) batch of metals. Try human - a normal human no glasses or goggles.... look at Peter Pig figures for really simple faces that paint well. You can do better than those.

Yeah sure, I asked because some sort of wrappings would tie better in with the other figs and fluff a bit.

well you can win next years frothers comp then ;-)

Heh, I doubt it. I've tried sculpting a mini for that comp every time they've held it but I've never managed to get something enterable

Bodhi do you have any pointers and tips for tweaking the details and how to get stuff done.

Squig
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Bodhi on May 17, 2008, 11:58:14 AM
Quote from: Bungle on May 17, 2008, 11:35:35 AM


Bodhi do you have any pointers and tips for tweaking the details and how to get stuff done.

Nothing to add. Everything has been covered in extensive detail. Perhaps a bit to harsh. Don't break Squigface! (I suspect I would have)  Bungle is - as we all know- a nice man  :icon_wink:.
Just a question: Do you use magnifier? I don't when I work in 28 mm but find that it really really helps in 15 mm.
And hard edges are a matter of timing. Do them when it's soft, sharpen up, sharpen up and sharpen up AGAIN while the putty is curing.
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Squigface on May 17, 2008, 12:00:57 PM
Not generally, I still have youthfull eyes and good lighting. But my lamp has one built in, and I use it on occasion. Oh and don't worry Bodhi, I'm used to worse ;)

Squig
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Bungle on May 17, 2008, 12:07:14 PM
Damn I didn't mean to be harsh  :icon_ermm:

sorry if it came across that way.  Its a huge picture of something 1.5cm high, any problems will be magnified 10 times on my screen.

Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Squigface on May 17, 2008, 12:10:22 PM
I'ts fine Bungle, I don't think you were harsh. Just slightly blunt, which was in this case a good thing as it helped make the mini better :) Anyway, IMO you could be as blunt as you liked seeing as this is something you'd be buying and selling.

Squig
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Bungle on May 17, 2008, 12:58:50 PM
Good job its not last week then.. I was in a foul mood and taking it out on everyone
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Custom_Hobby on May 28, 2008, 09:02:04 AM
Squig did you touch this one up at all?
Title: Re: 15 mm wasteland grunt
Post by: Squigface on May 28, 2008, 05:25:44 PM
Yes, I did. Just not had the oppertunity to photo it again.

Squig