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Title: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bungle on December 13, 2007, 05:50:19 PM
Anyone heard of FIX IT SCULPT?

seen here on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FIXIT-SCULPT-1-4-lb-Great-for-Breyer-CM-Custom-Resin_W0QQitemZ250195750077QQihZ015QQcategoryZ35999QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD4VQQcmdZViewItem)

anyone tried it?

made by http://www.avesstudio.com/  up to 500F and supposedly stable
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Custom_Hobby on December 13, 2007, 07:34:02 PM
Never heard of it, are you thinking of buying it?
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bungle on December 14, 2007, 03:40:06 AM
I was wondering what it was like to work with, and thinking about it.
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on December 14, 2007, 01:16:47 PM
Seems like it's  a brand new product. I'm curious. Tried to order right away but I'm kind of confused on HOW to order from that link? Can't find any way to mark a PURCHASE of the product. Just loads of advertisement about it...

I like magic sculp (which I have been told is very similar to Aves) but the drawback has been that it cures a bit fragile. According to those advertisements FIX IT SCULPT seems to be a great deal more durable than Aves. So it definitely looks interesting.
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bungle on December 14, 2007, 02:01:19 PM
you can get it from the Ebay link
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on December 16, 2007, 02:32:45 PM
OK ordered it, though directly from Aves not via ebay. Suppose it'll be one or two weeks before I have it. I'll give a review once I've tried it out.
Seems very interesting I must say.
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on December 22, 2007, 07:08:24 AM
Package arrived! Today, on a  saturday! They hasd sent it with priority A-mail. Postage was actually more expensive than the product... $12 for postage, $10 for the putty.
Done a quick initial test.
Consistency on opening: Sticky and fairly goooey, much like magic sculp or aves
Consistency when mixed: Smoother and less "flakey" than magic sculp. Still very soft compared to green stuff but it sets after a short while (10 minutes or so) into a more workable stage. Easy to smooth, takes details well. No memory effect.
Waiting for it to cure now then we'll see about consistency when set, sanding, cutting and drilling possibilities and so forth.
I'll also throw it hard against a wall or something to check for durability.
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Perv on December 22, 2007, 07:48:54 AM
"I'll also throw it hard against a wall or something to check for durability."

lol makes sure they're sturdy for those that lose 10 wargame battles in a row  :icon_w00t:
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bungle on December 22, 2007, 08:44:00 AM
Just remember FIMO (if properly cured) will vulcanise directly (and the moulding cost are only £10 more) so if this stuff will vulcanise too it might be usable
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Custom_Hobby on December 24, 2007, 09:54:32 PM
So Bodhi how was it after it cured?
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on December 25, 2007, 07:16:02 AM
Very smooth to cut, takes scrud*ing and sanding better than magic sculp (and MUCH better than green stuff of course) NOT that durable. Better than magic sculp sure but ... so so.
I think it would be very easy to use this as a first layer for a figure as you can blob it on pretty roughly and then carve it to shape without the cut being in the least bit uneven.
Also more durable than brown stuff so it would be a good choice for weapons and mechanical parts I think.
I've discovered that a lot of epoxy putties don't really become at their most durable until after two or three WEEKS curing though so I'm not giving up.
First testfigure coming up soon.

Doesn't mix very well with green stuff. Magic sculp is better in that regard. The mix becomes to easy to drag apart so it's hard to make long threads for instance. I've just done some initial tests with crossmixing it with other putties yet though so I'll run some more tests and also try mixing with pro create, FIMO and brown stuff. So I'll get back on that.
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on December 27, 2007, 05:04:49 PM
OK, after a few days trying this material I've come to this conclusion:

Really not better than magic sculp,not worse either. Just different.
Advantages (over magic sculp):
* It's white, magic sculp is a sort of transparent white that makes it hard to see details when unmixed with other putties
* It's perhaps SLIGHTLY less brittle but cures softer than magic sculp, certainly NOT "rockhard"
* It mixes VERY WELL with pro create (which magic sculp doesn't) and makes pro create easier to work with.

Disadvantages (over magic sculp):
* It doesn't mix well with green stuff
* It's stickier than magic sculp to work with

Similarities:
Both magic sculp and FIXIT sculpt react with water - much like ordinary ceramics clay.
Both are also VERY soft when freshly mixed.
This calls for a totally different sculpting technique from the one used with green stuff, pro create and brown stuff. You use more of a "painting,smearing" technique as opposed to the pushing and prodding that you use with the others. It makes detailing more difficult whereas it makes smoothing of large areas (Capes and similar) easier.

It won't replace other materials I use but will come in as a handy addition (especially in conjunction with pro create)
So nothing to get all worked up and exited about but another handy addition to the materials box is what sums up my impressions.
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bungle on December 27, 2007, 05:40:39 PM
interesting to hear, the not setting rock hard might be a problem for vulcanization, only a test will tell.
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Custom_Hobby on December 27, 2007, 07:33:11 PM
Do I sense a 15mm test piece in the works?
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on December 28, 2007, 02:55:49 AM
Bungle has kindly accepted letting a testpiece join in with the others I'll send him yes.
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bungle on December 28, 2007, 06:10:26 AM
And it can be anything you want, 28mm might be better if it is a bit fragile
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on January 02, 2008, 06:24:53 PM
Hmmm... experimentation continues... I've tried a tripart mix with two parts green stuff, two parts FIXIT and one part brown stuff that is showing VERY promising. So now I'm just not sure. I'll get a pic up of a certain cimmerian dude done in this mix soon. Not done but very close to it. Perhaps he'll be done by the time I get myself together and take a picture...
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Custom_Hobby on January 02, 2008, 07:35:18 PM
Sooooo where are the pics? :icon_wink: :bludrgn2:
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on January 02, 2008, 07:50:08 PM
Getting myself together... I'm all spread out after the holidays so it'll be a while collecting all the pieces  :abduct:


Hang on... I've got to learn how to TAKE pictures to....


Well... give it three to four years and I should have the hang of it... Let's say six just to be on the safe side  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on January 03, 2008, 06:21:59 PM
I skipped the "learning how to take pictures" part which speeded things up a bit...

And instead of ONE barbarian WIP. You get two!! The male one would be the "classic" type, the female one clearly Iliad and native american inspired (more feather decorations coming up.)
TADAH!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/AlfVierth/IMG_1504_edited.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/AlfVierth/IMG_1503_edited.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/AlfVierth/IMG_1502_edited.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/AlfVierth/IMG_1501_edited.jpg)

Any good?

I figure the male one to be pointing at a player saying "You just try to use your dirty hands fer picking me up to use as a pawn in your silly game!" (that axe is sharp!) Originally I meant for him to hold a jester and call it "Barbarian heroes have NO sense of humour!" Might still do that as an optional hand (hand + jester that is). A fat merchant might also be nice.
Of course it could also be (someone...) arguing with Crom  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bungle on January 03, 2008, 06:31:40 PM
look good.... which bits are the new putty?
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on January 03, 2008, 06:44:10 PM
On the male barbarian: All of it is the three part mix. The brown takes a while to come out when curing so I think in a few days time it will look less patchy. It's all done with the same mix. The axehead and part of his sash (the white one...) are all unmixed FIXIT. And the skeleton underneath which doesn't show of course...

On the lady just part of one shoulderguard and the arm are made in the new mix. I started her quite a while back but she's been sitting and waiting along with three other barbarian females that are barely more than nude poses yet. All of them are in "fighting upwards" positions as they're quite short, based on one of Hasslefrees shorter ladies for size (can't remember her name but she's wearing jeans and holding a pistol. Kate?) Except one but that's because she's the shaman of the bunch so she's meditating looking up (presumably towards her god or something..)

I'll put the male up on other forums once he's all done but will wait with the ladies until they're a group worth showing.

That's why I'm not making a new thread for this either, just kind of "semihiding" it in a discussion concerning a new putty  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Baldemyr on January 21, 2008, 08:52:25 AM
I would buy both of these when they are out in metal.  :D


I swear.  They are both very very cool.
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bungle on January 21, 2008, 01:11:13 PM
Bodhi Might have them in metal in a few months.. well master casts if he wants
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Custom_Hobby on January 23, 2008, 11:53:30 AM
Both of these are great. The movement in each figure is excellent!
Title: Re: Sculpting materials
Post by: Bodhi on January 23, 2008, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: Bungle on January 21, 2008, 01:11:13 PM
Bodhi Might have them in metal in a few months.. well master casts if he wants

Thanks but the testfigure I would try to cast is more of a pure Fixit sculpt figure. Just a tiny dash of brown from brown stuff and yellow from green stuff added mainly because pure white is a pain on the eye.
These I will save for my first own master mold if the testcasting works out.
I'll post the testfigure tomorrow. It's late and I want to sculpt before I hit the bed, not take pictures. It's another barbarian by the way, and a goblin to.