So this is my new project, a stone church for my village.
It will be carved from foam, with a styrene roof.
I have a few windows from Grandt line, that will be filled in with glue and painted to make stained glass.
While I've never in me life seen the light shine from inside a church, I will light it since people will ask why make stained glass and not light it. :shrug:
The only part that is really done is the front door. It was made from foam, and earrings.
This one is going to take me a while, since I have to make all of my christmas gifts as well. But this will be the project log for it. hope you enjoy.
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5629/01xq4.jpg)
I llok forward to seeing this one as it develops - it should be fantastic at the end
:jawsdown: Having seen your other buildings, I think this one is going to be stunning too!!! :)
How big will your village be, or are you just adding one building at a time?
Looks good as usual mate, bet it turns out great :icon_wink:
One thing that throws me with your photos is the difference in colours. In the 2 photos shown here they appear 2 blatently different colours, light pink and blue in 1, bright pink and white in the other. I never really know what colour they look in real life.....
Quote from: Perv on November 21, 2007, 06:27:46 AM
Looks good as usual mate, bet it turns out great :icon_wink:
One thing that throws me with your photos is the difference in colours. In the 2 photos shown here they appear 2 blatently different colours, light pink and blue in 1, bright pink and white in the other. I never really know what colour they look in real life.....
That's middle of the night flash photography for ya. The first pic is probably closer to the right colors.
I'm used to taking pics of my plants in the dark as 2 x 600w bulbs make it very hard when they're on. I've never had such colour variations though. Have u tried using the flash but with the room light on too? May make it more uniform. On pics like above it doesnt matter but your finished work is so good and I think the pics let it down a bit so we cant see its full glory
That is with the room lights on. :icon_neutral:
As this is just wip, I'm not too concerned with it. However, when I shoot the finished project, I always take it outside, with natural light. It really is the only way to go. Even more than that, Elvish stuff get's bright sunny days, while Mannish stuff gets overcast doom and gloom.
grrrrrr.
The design wasn't "doing it" for me, so I've started cutting bits off and re-arranging it. So I've hit snag #1. It should still work out though, hopefully.
fingers crossed mate :icon_wink:
If it makes you feel better I have dismantled my paint desk and packed everything up. I have become so bad at painting I dont deserve anything more than crayons at the moment. I will try again in a few months when I have some inspiration.
I guess you will be doing only Mannish things for the next 6 months then.....Taking photos of Elvish things must be restricted to 4 weeks per year !!!! I prefer to paint in unnatural light as my minis are never in sunlight so I also try to take pics in same light they were painted in. I understand that natural light cant be beaten for quality but if my minis are never shown in it then it seems pointless to me. My views should change dramatically on reaching St Lucia :icon_w00t:
Good luck with the revisions Theomar. I know how that can be :icon_wink:
Quote from: Perv on December 20, 2007, 07:04:26 AM
I guess you will be doing only Mannish things for the next 6 months then.....Taking photos of Elvish things must be restricted to 4 weeks per year !!!! I prefer to paint in unnatural light as my minis are never in sunlight so I also try to take pics in same light they were painted in. I understand that natural light cant be beaten for quality but if my minis are never shown in it then it seems pointless to me. My views should change dramatically on reaching St Lucia :icon_w00t:
I can understand that, whenever I shoot something elvish, I look for a very clear, sunny day. Mannish stuff is tougher, I want dark and overcast, but still enough light to shoot.
As for the revisions, I think it will work, I'll try to get some pics up. Instead of being shaped like a block capital J, it will be more a linear design, mostly for the roofline and space saving.
Have you tried printing on transparency (I have some inlet OHP stuff)
it might work well for stained glass windows and if you are adventurous you can make them fit the religion of choice.
Quote from: Bungle on December 20, 2007, 04:00:09 PM
Have you tried printing on transparency (I have some inlet OHP stuff)
it might work well for stained glass windows and if you are adventurous you can make them fit the religion of choice.
That is an option,and maybe I can retrofit in the future, but as for now, I am on a
very limited budget (haven't worked in over a year) and am simply using the resources I have available. :icon_neutral:
I'm going to try something I've not heard of before, and try using realistic water for window glass. Although, as I said, I've never heard of somebody trying this, so who knows.
That would be interesting as an effect as glass does tend to gather at the bottom over time.
bloody good idea mate although may look a bit funny doing them all completely in it. You may have to use the water effect on part of it and a grey for instance on the other bit for realism but wont know til you try.
I have used Realistic Wter that comes from a bottle not the melting tablets. The stuff from a bottle I would definately would NOT suggest it. It remains tacky and over time I have noticed bubbles in the "rivers" that I made with it.
I was considering the realistic water from the bottle. I've never has issue with bubbles, but I do recall is being somewhat tacky. Perhaps that is not the way to go.
Glue is giving me acceptable results, but nothing spectacular. Some of the thicker areas remain milky. It's ok when colored, but not good. It may just be a matter of getting the technique right.
I'm also going to try clear styrene, with water effects to age the glass. Pure water effects will not spread in the way needed to gap the windows, and straight styrene would be too smooth and clear.
how about this?
(http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/products/cn/cn6.jpg)
Just imagine those windows.....
(http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/products/cn/cn2.jpg)
I know its cheating but how about using some clear coloured Lego window pieces? will come in all sorts of sizes and colours and be cheap in a bits bundle, u can even buy individual pieces on buy-it-now option thru Ebay
You can then use a silver paint\pen to draw a pattern on them to make them look like stained glass. Coloured sheets of thin plastic would work too but not sure where you'd get em
I've seen some great castle and towers made from lego, and I mean stunning stuff, so I don't doubt the legos at all. The windows are all cut however. I'm not sure exactly how I'm going to do them, but I won't put them in until I'm happy with the results.
As for where I am, alot of the foam work is done. All that is left for this part is butress's, the top of the bell tower, and maybe some add ons. I was just thinking I may make a small priests house to go along as well.
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2029/christmas073554um6.jpg)
Shot at 2007-12-22
I know you mentioned a tight budget but I thought I'd drop this in for a retrofit at some stage, I've seen it work really well. Just design or "borrow" a window design and print it out on a transparency sheet, as I think Bungle mentioned, then use glass painting outliner to redraw the leading to get a relief effect. Okay, I'll butt out now :)
Lego rocks! I got a combine harveeset fir xmas'1 lol
I've got the exterior fully sculpted. However, I'll be taking a break from this for a while. Reason being, it has about 24 windows, each of which is going to have to be fully glassed and colored, and the roof needs to be fully shingled. It's going to be a long running project, simply because there is so much left to tackle.
Is this one still on the back burner?
Yeah, it actually just got put on the back burner. I've been carving little detail bits for so long, that I started to feel like I wasn't really creating anything anymore. The worst part is, I still have tons of little details to go. Fortunately, I have a history of coming back to projects that I put on the back burner.
Quote from: Theomar Pius on January 23, 2008, 12:48:06 PM
Fortunately, I have a history of coming back to projects that I put on the back burner.
That is a good thing. I find it is the best thing to do when things get tedious. It makes for a much better finished piece if you make sure you really want to do it while you are fabricating it.
In 06, I put the tower on Nor Brethil on hold, and went on to build some other Brettonian stuff. I came back to it while taking a break from the town gates. Both are finished now.
Check out the cottage on the wip thread, I've built it in my "free time" while taking a break from the church.
Link to the cottage (http://www.customhobby.com/forum/index.php?topic=1681.0) for the lazy like me :icon_wink:
Solved the window thing.
For those not keeping track, here is the story.
I'm using Grandt line gothic windows, and was looking for a way to make them stained glass.
What I came up with is to use modeling wire mesh, and fill the gaps with water effects. The key is a piece of celo tape, which helps to spread out the water effects. Once dry, the gaps in the wire are filled with the water effects, completely clear, with a bit of ripple. I'm using felt tip pens to color them.
As soon as I'm finished with the town center, I'll be coming back to the church, and I'll show you how the windows work.
And just a pic to show where this one is.
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6747/chapelvq1.jpg)
Sweet looking church. Really cool.
The windows look good!
Long time no update, so here we go.
First, I made the stairs to the front door, and a platform for a statue.
Also, I didn't like the looks of the butresses, so I extended them two inches taller.
Finally, I added some balsa supports for the roof, which is the next step.
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/876/walltownhouse4606ya9.jpg)
Looking very good theomar. I remember some of what you said you wanted to do with this from our chats. This one is going to look great like the others.
Cracking stuff!! :clap2: :clap2:
40 hours of shingle work gets us to this point. Originally I wanted a multi colored roof, but I'm not really feeling the results. Still, it gives an idea of just how many tiles go onto the roof. I'll paint it one solid color, and if I do it right, I'll get some variety in that color based on the colors already on the roof.
Paint on the stone still isn't done, but next is making stained glass windows to go all around.
(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/889/08xu3.jpg)
Looking good (as was to be expected).
Two questions:
1) did you use pushpins (or whatever they're called) on the chimney? They work real well, especially once painted.
2) Is that coloured plasticard you used for the roofing or cardboard?
I agree that painting the roof in just one colour with slight variation would look better, many different coloured tiles would make it look a bit too busy
Superb :) Having the original colours affect the final colour of the roof should give some nice variabtion.
What is the statue, btw?
Yes, pushpins for chimney pots is what I used, they are a great trick. I'll probably add some clear tubing just to build it a little more, and make it look not so much like pins.
The roof is made from for sale signs, spray painted various colors. They are made from a sturdy, thin styrene, but much cheaper that what you can get from the hobby store.
Basically one of these, well 6 of these:
(http://www.4starsigns.com/sign07.jpg)
The statue is from Lemax, they make christmas village stuff.
Dirt cheap too.
http://www.lemaxvillages.com/servlet/the-1478/Madonna-and-Child/Detail
Thanks for the info, do the signs take paint well? The ones I've seen over here seem very wobbly, so I never considered using them for anything.
I'm envious. All the nice instant scenery bits/ christmas village stuff is very uncommon over here. And when you find some, it's incredibly expensive.
More often than not lately, I'll use thin card, like a cereal box, for roofing, as it takes paint VERY well.
The card takes more cotes of paint, since it doesn't soak any in, but it's not bad.
Quote from: Theomar Pius on August 08, 2008, 01:39:20 PM
More often than not lately, I'll use thin card, like a cereal box, for roofing, as it takes paint VERY well.
The card takes more cotes of paint, since it doesn't soak any in, but it's not bad.
Card from a cereal box - that's what I've used when I started building some sort of mausoleum/crypt way back (poorly little thing, ended up in the garbage bin). Has the added bonus of coming with tasty stuff (sometimes even useful little toys) inside as well!
This is what the window frames look like, from Grandt Line products.
These are the louvered windows of the bell tower, the rest will be stained glass.
The solid portion of the window is cla[board from Evergreen.
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9227/10po0.jpg)
Looks awesome man. Dont know what else to say.
Instead I give you this awesome smiley. :armsrace:
Ok, this is the last update in the WIP thread. This is how I made the stained glass windows.
Materials used were wireform mesh, Woodland Scenics water effects, clear tape, felt tipped pens, Grandt Line gothic windows.
First thing was painting the mesh black, sinces leaded glass is black.
Next I cut the mesh to the rough size of the windows.
Following that i put a piece of clear tape on the mesh, flip it over, and work the water effects into the mesh, and allow to dry.
Next day, carefully peal the tape off of the reverse of the window.
Next I colored in the individual panes with the markers.
Finally, trim to match the frames, and glue in place.
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4593/temple4659dk1.jpg)
wow! cool, and a good tip for me as i needed someting similar. good work.
Excellent tute on stained glass windows :)
Thanks, Theomar!
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