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Title: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on January 31, 2007, 01:57:56 PM
I shall be ordering her sometime in the next few days but I need to make an artistic decision on the colour scheme. I know that I'll be going for dark armour with tarnished gold or red details.

However, I haven't decided on the skin yet because I'm considering doing her with either black or red hair. If I do her with red hair then I'll do a pinky reddish skin (which, if done palid, could also look good for her anyway) but if I do her with black hair then I have more freedom to use other skin colours.

When I start painting her this'll be a WIP thread but untill then I'd more than welcome any discussion on colour schemes.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: gi6ers on January 31, 2007, 02:01:34 PM
I think a pale skin tone would work with both TBH...the contrast would work well against the armour IMO...
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on January 31, 2007, 02:18:04 PM
By red, I mean a very dark red that's nearly black with some brighter red highlights.

And by dark armour I don't mean black. I mean very dark (as in a lot of chaos black with some boltgun metal mixed in, heavily inked with black ink and then given some purer metal highlights).
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: gi6ers on January 31, 2007, 02:22:04 PM
Sounds good, and very challenging...where did you order her from?
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on January 31, 2007, 04:13:54 PM
Quote from: gi6ers on January 31, 2007, 02:22:04 PM
Sounds good, and very challenging...where did you order her from?

Quoteshall be ordering her sometime in the next few days

When I place the order, it'll probably be direct from Reaper's webshop. I find it easier than trying to order from local (British) importers who might be out of stock and generaly don't let you see preview pics beforehand either. I know I could use the Reaper site for previews and then order from elsewhere but I've found their delivery system to be very efficient (no missing mini's or anything).
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: gi6ers on January 31, 2007, 04:26:26 PM
let me know if you want me to order via paypal, happy to help! (I might buy one too then)
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on January 31, 2007, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: gi6ers on January 31, 2007, 04:26:26 PM
let me know if you want me to order via paypal, happy to help! (I might buy one too then)

I, erm, blatantly signed up an account at their webshop 2 or 3 or 4 years ago and sort of make largish orders every 8 or 9 months...... So paying them's not a problem :p.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Custom_Hobby on January 31, 2007, 09:50:03 PM
If I can ever help pick anything up on this end of the pond (for any of you), please just let me know and I will help.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on January 31, 2007, 10:13:00 PM
Quote from: Custom_Hobby on January 31, 2007, 09:50:03 PM
If I can ever help pick anything up on this end of the pond (for any of you), please just let me know and I will help.

Don't Tempt Me! :p
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Custom_Hobby on January 31, 2007, 11:21:15 PM
Just feel free to PM me as always. It's no bother.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on January 31, 2007, 11:36:35 PM
Quote from: Custom_Hobby on January 31, 2007, 11:21:15 PM
Just feel free to PM me as always. It's no bother.

See the last three or four posts in my wishlist thread :p.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: gi6ers on February 01, 2007, 06:21:02 AM
ok in that case if you want some paypal credit to use as you wish I'll have one too  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: cheddarmonger on February 01, 2007, 07:10:10 AM
Reaper minis are very easy to come by here in the colonies.  I've been known to ship a reaper or two overseas.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: gi6ers on February 01, 2007, 12:47:41 PM
Thanks David, I'll wait 'til there are a few I want/need and send you a PM. Top bloke as usual ! Thanks!
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on February 01, 2007, 01:01:53 PM
I'm still trying to work out, is Gi6ers trying to help me or asking me to help him? I haven't placed the order yet so if we were talking a joint order then I can handle that (sort of).
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 01, 2007, 01:03:49 PM
And if not there is always David and myself who can help with sending things over from this end of the pond.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: gi6ers on February 01, 2007, 03:30:05 PM
Balgin, the offer was that you could do me a favour and in return I'd do you a favour as I know you don't have paypal.

Don't worry either way, I'll take the colonials up on their offer at some point  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on February 01, 2007, 04:11:31 PM
Okay, well some more colour scheme discussion would be nice but I'd like to request that when I start posting WIP shots here then all non painting related posts get removed, right?
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 01, 2007, 04:48:50 PM
Sure, either one of the Global Moderators or I can do that.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on February 20, 2007, 04:45:56 PM
Well mine arrived today. I'll see about putting some pictures up tomorrow. She seems to have rather a heavy coating of amneotic fluids (you know, the afterbirth). For one so young she bears some unfortunately mold liens (the only annoying one runs across the grain of the hair and is quite raised, there is another on the inside of a curve that's awkward to get at).

Does anyone have any suggestions for cleaning off this mold releasing agent (or whatever it is). She's a good mini and I'd like to do her properly (insert dodgey inuendo smiley here :p).

She doesn't have the traditional Klocke face, he's narrowed the jaw a lot which is a shame because it actualy makes her look less attractive when she's got a triangular head (that narrow jaw just doesn't go with those broad cheekbones). I'll see if I can hide the extreme angle of the cheeks with paint (less shading) but I can't make any promises (if I felt more confidant and a lot more experienced then I'd see about greenstuffing them back on a bit - yes she'd still be gaunt, she just wouldn't look like she'd caught the lower half of her face in a vice or something).
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: gi6ers on February 20, 2007, 04:48:43 PM
Give her a quick wash in hot soapy water. That'll take it off.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 20, 2007, 05:04:44 PM
Yep that will take care of it. You shoudl do that for all of your figures really. I will usually do it after removing the mould lines and any other filing that I have to do. Just gets everything off at one time.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on February 21, 2007, 12:38:27 PM
Well this morning the lady arose from her bed and soaked in a long warm soapy bath, basking in the luxurious comfort of washing up liquid in an empty (and washed) iced cream tub for a good twenty or thirty minutes. Emerging from the bath she indulged in a cold shower (under the tap) to ensure that every inch of her body was wide awake before returning to her cozy bed (lined with foam from her native land) to dream away the day 'till night came (or at least the late hours of the afternoon).
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Custom_Hobby on February 21, 2007, 11:38:22 PM
A gift with words. By the way Balgin do you ever write short stories?
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on February 22, 2007, 02:49:42 AM
Quote from: Custom_Hobby on February 21, 2007, 11:38:22 PM
A gift with words. By the way Balgin do you ever write short stories?

Not often although I love telling stories to a willing audience :p. I can write stories but I never bother to finish them (because I know how the rest of the story will go long before I get anywhere near finishing it).

I remember trying to write one story and suffered a six year writer's block on the wording of a sentence just over two pages in. When I finaly broke that one, I got another two or three years' writer's block before I was able to write another page or so (which is really frustrating as I'd had the whole story worked out right from the beginning - that'd be about 13 year's ago now). After the three year gap I just jotted the rest down in note form so I wouldn't forget it.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on May 23, 2007, 09:17:56 AM
Sorry folks but I haven't started painting her yet. Monique is suffering from Mold (and not the sort you'd usualy associate with the dead either). It's the kind that's got lines you could drive a train on :(.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Balgin/Miniatures/Reaper/Monique-mold1.jpg)

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Balgin/Miniatures/Reaper/Monique-mold2.jpg)

I've scrud*ed the inside of that skirt with my scalpel and there's still this huge obvious ridge running across the inner edge (which will be very visible to people like me when she's finished). It's too narrow for my shaky hands to get at and too big for people to not notice.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I've got a set of rifflers (curved jeweler's files or something) tucked away somewhere that I got given as a present to file bits on mini's with years ago. I never got the hang of them but I could dig them out and give it a go couldn't I?
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: gi6ers on May 23, 2007, 09:20:29 AM
I know that Ritual uses cocktail sticks with fine sandpaper glue to them...might be worth a try...I like reaper stuff but the castings are very hit and miss.

Looking forward to seeing what you do with it, their was a really cool red with gold trim version in the reaper magazine recently...
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on May 23, 2007, 09:26:54 AM
Well. I was going to do it the way I did the Rackham Hammergirls. But I got them and did the colour scheme on them instead. So, like their armour but maybe with a slight red wash over it, or some sort of mild rest effect if I can work one out.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: dargrin on May 23, 2007, 10:11:43 AM
Quote from: Balgin Stondraeg on May 23, 2007, 09:17:56 AM

I've scrud*ed the inside of that skirt with my scalpel and there's still this huge obvious ridge running across the inner edge (which will be very visible to people like me when she's finished). It's too narrow for my shaky hands to get at and too big for people to not notice.

I have only two suggestions. Thin coat of green stuff would fill the gap and fill the hole.  The second would be to use a polishing bit in a dremel to work out the  scratch.  You of course would need to reprime that area but It would work out fine.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on May 23, 2007, 10:15:29 AM
Okay, what's a dremmel? Seriously, I've never seen one and don't know what it looks like. I've heard it's a sort of drilling, cutting destructive tool but that's all I know (and since it's an electric power tool it's probably way out of my £480 a month budget which easily drops to around £120 after all bills and living expensses have been taken care of).

I've been meaning to scrud*e it down a bit more then putty it back up but haven't managed to find the motivation to scrud*e it any more yet (simply too depressing :().
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: dargrin on May 23, 2007, 10:57:51 AM
Here is link for ya!  I took the liberty of setting the search engine for UK locations.

http://www.dremeleurope.com/dremelocs-uk/Product.jsp;jsessionid=4C3E07BB55A2E95421B62985F1C55319?&ccat_id=539&prod_id=2 (http://www.dremeleurope.com/dremelocs-uk/Product.jsp;jsessionid=4C3E07BB55A2E95421B62985F1C55319?&ccat_id=539&prod_id=2)
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Dr.Evil on May 23, 2007, 03:21:07 PM
I got a cheep power tool one for £10.00 and have seen them or near enough in £-streacher and LIdil's for the same price.
Might take a bit longer to do stuff that the big money one's can do but i find it handy enough for hobby work and you can buy box's of extra head's for £10.00 as well and i use it with Andy's 1mm drill's.
If you keep the charger pluged in when using it, you get a bit more power from it than just using it's battery.
My mate got one too for house hold job's but found it no use so i have two but one of the charger's is A.W.O.L....  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on May 23, 2007, 03:29:42 PM
So I won't be able to get one at Johnny Junks Surplus Stores in town then eh? :p Plus I hear you guys seriously maim your hands with dremmels on a regular basis if certain threads on the Reaper forums are anything to go by.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Dr.Evil on May 23, 2007, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: Balgin Stondraeg on May 23, 2007, 03:29:42 PM
I hear you guys seriously maim your hands with dremmels on a regular basis if certain threads on the Reaper forums are anything to go by.

No, you only hurt yourself if you do something daft or unthinking like i did once, too much pressure with the drill bent slightly and it broke and i ended up with a tiny hole in my finger where the broken bit of drill stuck in my finger that was helping hold the figure.  :icon_tears:

Have one of the bench vice's that you clamp on bench's and stuff but never seem to use....  :shrug:
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Custom_Hobby on May 23, 2007, 11:15:23 PM
Wristacting is right. you only hurt yourself when you are doing something you shouldn't be really. Just read the instructions and then use some common sense. A Dremel or any tool like it is very handy for the hobby.
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Balgin Stondraeg on May 24, 2007, 02:59:05 AM
You'll note that I conscuiously resisted the urge to add the sentence "but most of those posts are by americans" to the end of that post.  :icon_w00t:
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: Medved on May 24, 2007, 04:55:31 AM
i have a bad enough time injuring myself with regular tools, let alone power tools, and i'm english!   :icon_saber:
Title: Re: Monique du Noire MSM
Post by: steeldragon on May 28, 2007, 11:45:57 PM
I have a chinese-dremel-like tool that I bought for around £8 that I was very happy with until my girlfriend handed me hers... it's like the same tool but for polishing nails and manicure, so it runs on lower revolutions to avoid maiming yourself, but with enough power to drill holes and getting rid of mold lines, with the added value that is more difficcult to maim your miniature too. The only drawback was the bright pink colour it was made of.

Andres